TIMYUGIOH
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what are your opinions on net decking?i personally think that people who net deck are not very good at the game otherwise they would not need to do it
i think its sad that people do it just to win tournys its taken the fun element out of the game, this is why i cant be asked with competitive play hobby league is much better and alot more fun
i say to those of you that do it stop now cos your ruining the game
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Darkfire
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if i'm right in saying that net decking is copying a deck card-for-card because it won regionals or something like that then you're absolutely rigt tim, having unique decks is one of the things that makes yu-gi-oh fun to play, never knowing what new techs etc people have come up with, i look around for ideas but i'd never net-deck
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theboywithtits
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With 99% of decks it is sad if somebody netdecks an idea but there is the odd exception, for example I constantly think of a way to utilize Spell Canceller so I searched up a 2 year old deck called Spell Canceller Control for ideas but not the deck but on the whole Net-Deckers should try to be more creative.
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lightsworn lord
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tbh i think net decking isnt the worst thing for ideas but dont use them in a real tournament or sumat like that id use a net deck for fun or 2 actually c if the deck worked but i wouldnt enter a tourny with them
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EheroDC
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I have never net-decked an entire deck, but more take ideas or techs from decks I've seen either in live play or Metagame when it did YGO. The plant deck I ran last sat had ideas from some-one I saw at the boarders tournement but I wouldn't say I net-decked.
Going card for card on a deck is a little lame as you need to put your own spin on decks, but if thats what it takes to win the big tournaments then there is nothing wrong with it. It just depends what the goal of the tournament is, Winning or Fun?
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theboywithtits
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Yeah that should be the poll is Yu-Gi-Oh becoming to competitive; Yes or No?
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Guest
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I don't like netdecking, but that isn't to say I don't take ideas from other people's decks. Think about it. If no one had netdecked Lazaro and Dale Belido's first Lightsworn build, I doubt anyone would have even thought of using Necro Gardna. Necro Gardna was just tossed aside as a worthless anime holo and then Team Overdose threw it into their first Lightsworn builds and everyone jumped on the bandwagon.
I take ideas from other people's decks, but never netdeck them card for card. I tend to take influences from other builds, especially if I've never built the deck before.
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Daedalus
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In my opinion, this type of decking sucks. I play to have fun and to get some trades in (money is of course preferred). But I mean come on, I thought this kind of thing went without saying. I play to have fun first and to win second (this is my excuse for sucking so bad ).
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T HaXx
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i have said this on plenty of discussion's before over the years
net decking isnt a bad thing
my take on netdecking and people can say they have never netdecked and i can prove you have
i went through i time about 2 and a half years ago where i could not find a deck i was happy with so i went on metagame (at the time i had never been on it before since it was a new website) i checked the recent sjc at the time and saw a deck ran
Justin Womack
Monsters — 16
3 Card Trooper
3 Cyber Dragon
3 Goldd, Wu-Lord of Dark World
3 Injection Fairy Lily
3 Cyber Phoenix
1 Jinzo
1 Morphing Jar
Spells — 17
3 Dark World Lightning
3 Machine Duplication
3 Brain Control
1 Heavy Storm
1 Mystical Space Typhoon
1 Snatch Steal
1 Premature Burial
1 Nobleman of Extermination
1 Limiter Removal
1 Nobleman of Crossout
1 Card Destruction
Traps — 7
3 Dimension Wall
1 Magic Cylinder
1 Ring of Destruction
1 Ceasefire
1 Call of the Haunted
Side Deck:
3 Thestalos the Firestorm Monarch
1 Raiza the Storm Monarch
1 Zaborg the Thunder Monarch
2 Snipe Hunter
1 Treeborn Frog
1 Sangan
1 Confiscation
1 Pot of Avarice
3 Trap Dustshoot
1 Mirror Force
Fusion Deck:
1 Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon
1 Cyber End Dragon
1 Gatling Dragon
1 Elemental Hero Shining Flare Wingman
2 Cyber Twin Dragon
3 Dark Balter the Terrible
2 Ryu Senshi
2 Fiend Skull Dragon
2 Reaper on the Nightmare
2 Flame Swordsman
i was amazed i could not believe a deck with a weird twist did so well for justin with earned him a worlds invite so i took the deck the following local and finsihed 2nd place with it hitting so excellent OTK's
so then i took it to the next local and finished a top 1st place with it
by this time i had changed my side deck to my prefrence i had opted on - the zaborg for a 2nd Raiza and it worked extremly well the conversion side worked well and i took this to the European nationals where i come 9th in the big side event the great trial of the sanganma i missed out so much on the top8 but i was told by my fellow lads who went with me from across the uk if i had made top 8 with it i was a strong competitior to win the event i ended up winning boxes and an ipod nano 8gb
i then ran that deck till the end of the format untill Card tropper got restricted from then on i had a good understanding on how to make the perfect deck or a deck that can be competitive at locals since most of the birmingham players are very competitive
i had an understanding of the game and followed every sjc after that not more on neting the decks but more on the feature matches there the true insight on the deck it shows u the capability of the deck and how it shows against different decks
i also saw the build by the german player who won the recnt fortuen tour finals we was running a Twilight deck with i understood on how it worked so well and how he could combine boths light and darkness together so after seeing that deck i took the decklist and made a few changed not all cards just maybe 3-4 changes i changed the side to my prefrence and adjusted the side to my liking
and i did very well with the deck netting 2 local leicester wins with it
same goes for charlie and landstar and tim aswell actully everyone on here i'll point the 3 above out
1st of
tim now way back when i 1st meet tim proberly at the sutton city championship that i won he was running a demise OTK deck a very well built one with i saw a couple of weeks before hand on a sjc now even though the deck was not card for card i assume he got the idea from there and took it on and adjusted it to his liking
the same goes with morphatronics
tim built a morphatronic deck do well with it to find at his nect local 2-3 people were running it people see this wow what a kool deck to run looks fun aswell as competitive the week i come where i won i noticed several people were running the morphs including landstar Coinsidence????
lets now take landstar
he come to the worcester regionals with the mind of doing well and getting at least top8 with he did and then won
he took the idea of little city with he may have seen on an sjc or maybe on a decklist on pojo thought wow thats a nice deck antimeta with can take on some of the tier1 decks and also fun to play using cards u wouldnt normaly use he took the idea play tested it i assume YVD editied a touch and then added his side deck to prefrence and after all that hard work came out on top to be the worcester regional champion
charlie
giving an example i meet charlie properly the time i 1st set on worcester i was running a GB deck along with him and he discussed both Decks and Told me What a genius Levitian was to come up with a good concept for a deck we discussed the deck and gave each other ideas him telling me the combo of primsa into test tiger into the gyzarus combo (not knowing at the time what the card did)
the same with lightsworn we were both running it at the time he played it much longer than me i took his idea of herald of creation another target to get my judgment dragon back a light a 1800 atk beatstick and could also lead me to dropping beckoning light i also gave him the idea of running secret village of the spellcasters with i saw some1 else run at another event
so yea this is my take on netdecking
i do net deck and its made me the player i am today
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EheroDC
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| T HaXx wrote: | | giving an example i meet charlie properly the time i 1st set on worcester i was running a GB deck along with him and he discussed both Decks and Told me What a genius Levitian was to come up with a good concept for a deck we discussed the deck and gave each other ideas him telling me the combo of primsa into test tiger into the gyzarus combo (not knowing at the time what the card did) |
I remember showing that Combo to Jack when he was playing DAD Return (around May last year) and he kept insisting on playing me over and over even though I beat him about 3x in a row solely because of going "Prisma-Test Tiger-Gyzarus". He couldn't believe how awesome the combo was.
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TIMYUGIOH
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| T HaXx wrote: |
tim now way back when i 1st meet tim proberly at the sutton city championship that i won he was running a demise OTK deck a very well built one with i saw a couple of weeks before hand on a sjc now even though the deck was not card for card i assume he got the idea from there and took it on and adjusted it to his liking
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well actually i built this out of my head
and for you to say that your the player you are today due to the net decking proves my point you may be a good player but make your own decks and win thats not as easy
NET DECKING IS WHAT RESULTS IN CERTAIN DECKS DOMINATING THE GAME WHERES THE FUN IN THAT SURELY YOU WANT TO SEE WIERD AND WONDERFUL DECKS WINNING TOURNYS? NOT JUST THE SAME OLD DECKS ALL THE TIME THIS IS NOT GOOD FOR THE GAME
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TIMYUGIOH
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| Daedalus wrote: | In my opinion, this type of decking sucks. I play to have fun and to get some trades in (money is of course preferred). But I mean come on, I thought this kind of thing went without saying. I play to have fun first and to win second (this is my excuse for sucking so bad ). |
agreed
and as a younger player you must get bored playing the better players who use generally 1 of only a few decks and take it all to seriously?
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T HaXx
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| TIMYUGIOH wrote: | | T HaXx wrote: |
tim now way back when i 1st meet tim proberly at the sutton city championship that i won he was running a demise OTK deck a very well built one with i saw a couple of weeks before hand on a sjc now even though the deck was not card for card i assume he got the idea from there and took it on and adjusted it to his liking
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well actually i built this out of my head
and for you to say that your the player you are today due to the net decking proves my point you may be a good player but make your own decks and win thats not as easy
NET DECKING IS WHAT RESULTS IN CERTAIN DECKS DOMINATING THE GAME WHERES THE FUN IN THAT SURELY YOU WANT TO SEE WIERD AND WONDERFUL DECKS WINNING TOURNYS? NOT JUST THE SAME OLD DECKS ALL THE TIME THIS IS NOT GOOD FOR THE GAME |
i do make my own decks angel permission
the volvanic oppression deck i made for hobby league plus countless others before that
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TIMYUGIOH
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| T HaXx wrote: | | TIMYUGIOH wrote: | | T HaXx wrote: |
tim now way back when i 1st meet tim proberly at the sutton city championship that i won he was running a demise OTK deck a very well built one with i saw a couple of weeks before hand on a sjc now even though the deck was not card for card i assume he got the idea from there and took it on and adjusted it to his liking
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well actually i built this out of my head
and for you to say that your the player you are today due to the net decking proves my point you may be a good player but make your own decks and win thats not as easy
NET DECKING IS WHAT RESULTS IN CERTAIN DECKS DOMINATING THE GAME WHERES THE FUN IN THAT SURELY YOU WANT TO SEE WIERD AND WONDERFUL DECKS WINNING TOURNYS? NOT JUST THE SAME OLD DECKS ALL THE TIME THIS IS NOT GOOD FOR THE GAME |
i do make my own decks angel permission
the volvanic oppression deck i made for hobby league plus countless others before that |
i know you've made your own decks before and some good ones at that
c'mon you must get bored of going to tournaments and playing the same decks all the time in the later stages, its like the upcoming nationals its gonna be dominated by gb, lightsworn, twilight
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Guest
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| T HaXx wrote: | lets now take landstar
he come to the worcester regionals with the mind of doing well and getting at least top8 with he did and then won
he took the idea of little city with he may have seen on an sjc or maybe on a decklist on pojo thought wow thats a nice deck antimeta with can take on some of the tier1 decks and also fun to play using cards u wouldnt normaly use he took the idea play tested it i assume YVD editied a touch and then added his side deck to prefrence and after all that hard work came out on top to be the worcester regional champion |
Well, that's not quite true. I believe the way it went was, I needed a competetive deck to get me into Nationals. I had 3 Honests from an old trade and I love E-Heroes, so I decided on Little City. I threw together a rough build and showed it to a mate of mine who's very good with E-Heroes, and he showed me how to improve it. So, I put it on Pojo and ukaypro and had people comment on it and adjusted it accordingly.
Going into the tournament, I had absolutely no testing against Tele-DAD going in and won 3 out of 5 games against it. I guess I mainly got lucky (despite my last game being very unlucky for me, going into it with a starter hand of 3 Bribes an Honest and something else).
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EheroDC
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I also disagree. I have been running LS competitavly since release and I still love playing it. I love tweaking the deck to either fit the meta or try out new tech. People thought I was mad when I mained Thunder Kings at the sutton Regs but it worked VERY well. I try out new decks and play in hobby leagues, but I can never see myself selling or trading off the cards. Even if they got destroyed by the ban list like Zombies
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Darkfire
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| TIMYUGIOH wrote: | | Daedalus wrote: | In my opinion, this type of decking sucks. I play to have fun and to get some trades in (money is of course preferred). But I mean come on, I thought this kind of thing went without saying. I play to have fun first and to win second (this is my excuse for sucking so bad ). |
agreed
and as a younger player you must get bored playing the better players who use generally 1 of only a few decks and take it all to seriously? |
most of them, don't forget mark at the xmas tourny (or one before that, not wuite sure) =P
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theboywithtits
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Wow this is heated, I am on the fence on this.
On the one hand, I reckon Net Decking is helpful but ONLY WHEN IT IS FOR LITTLER DECKS, there is no need to decks cards like Lightsworn but I did take some ideas from another Yu-Gi-Oh for my next Hobby League Deck - Toon Exodia (Watch this space!!!!) then edited it to suit my style of play.
On the other hand though, Netdecking has totally scraped all creativity out of Yu-Gi-Oh and this is why I agree with Tim's Hobby League rules because it forces people to be creative and shows the duelers who play for fun not who play for the bragging rights and the people who netdeck.
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wednesday13
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I can honestly say I have never copied anybody's deck card for card.
I will admit that on many occasions I have seen someones deck liked the idea and made my own version, dependant on my card pool and made changes to suit my personal play style.
I personally think net.decking for the sake of winning is sad. If winning a tournament means that much to you, then be my guest, but it's not something you will find me doing, I would sooner play something that is more fun to play at the same time as being less commonly played and I think the majority of the Worcester players would agree.
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Daedalus
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anyway, net decking is for panzies, hu cant play for shit
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T HaXx
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| Daedalus wrote: | | anyway, net decking is for panzies, hu cant play for shit |
ok i think my signiture begs to differ
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